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Started by malderat, 12-Nov-15, 12:44 AM

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uboat

It's hard to say that but she never deserved all this glorification. I just don't understand how this girl don't noted that they're only "using her" as a commercial source, and as I said once a loooong time ago you don't need to fear judo...but box is another thing.

sleepinbin

Please, people, don't become the "STRIKING >>> GRAPPLING" crowd in response to the infuriating "GRAPPING >>> STRIKING" crowd. Both matter and Holly executed a gameplan to perfection (and displayed a really really good clinch-TD defense, which was key), while Rousey looked absolutely lost against an opponent who knew how to move. Her bafflement was Diaz-esque and has to be blamed to a large extent on nobody training her to cut off the cage.

And then Holly, who is quite good at hitting people, just hit her until she fell down.

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Btee

man that kick says it all. It was like Ronda had no idea where she was before she was Ko'ed

voayer

I am sorry for all Ronda's fans, but she kinda get, what she deserves.
I never liked her arrogant behaviour.
"I am the greatest, i am the best paid fighter, i can beat Floyd......blah, blah, blah. Me, me, me.... "

I am kinda glad, that Holly shut her big mouth.
Even if all this swaggering is part of the show, not touching gloves with her opponent tells me, that she have a serious behaviour issue.

Just my oppinion.

malderat

Yeah... fuuuuck Ronda. Ronda just got beat so bad, Miesha Tate and Cat Zingano and all those other bitches watched and were like,
"oh,that's all I had to do.?"

Seriously though, this is like, a give a man fish/teach a man to fish situation. Like Joe said during the fight, ronda's stand up game got EXPOSED.

Plus, that bitch was a horrible role model. now god damnit I'm going golfing

sheehan333

#22
A perfect match for Holly Holmes. She came with a strategy and perfectly executed it. Ronda probably was over confident and as a result under prepared. When she realised this, she tried to get under the skin of Holly Holmes with her antiques at the weigh in and not touching gloves at the beginning of the fight, which was totally unnecessary. She looked out of breath and ideas at the end of the 1st round. Even after repeatedly being tagged by Holly, probably it was only her ego which kept her trying to go in toe to toe with Holmes rather than trying more for take downs. She was better in every department against all her opponents and she wanted to prove that against a world class boxer too. Also her training had some deficiencies, cause she was not picking up Holly's kicks which ultimately knocked her out. Did her team analyse Holly's videos properly? Has the lack of challenge dis interested her and her hollywood stints distracted her ?
Holly on the other hand was unflappable and had a definite plan which she followed to the tee. She looked ripped and admitted that this was the hardest she ever trained. She never made the mistake which other women did against Ronda, that was to rush at her. This rushing thing which the other girls did against a Olympic medallist Judoka was totally baffling. Probably because they were intimidated by Ronda or may be Ronda got under their skin but Holly Holmes never fell into that trap. She prepared for Ronda while Ronda prepared for just as another fight. Her over confidence, ego and lack of preparedness cost her the fight. But make no mistake an injured tigress is more dangerous. She will be back.

crushed4life

Quote from: jiminy on 15-Nov-15, 03:02 AM
It will be interesting to see how Ronda deals with this psychologically. She kept talking about knowing that she'll retire undefeated, and already planning her future in Hollywood. Like "Shadface" will haunt Rashad Evans for the rest of his career, haters will ALWAYS have this over Ronda. There'll be gifs. There will be memes.
Interesting you mention Rashad Evans, of the broadcast's pre-fight panel of 4 or 5, He was the only one to pick Holly to win. By a kick I believe.

Don't know how devastating this will be to Ronda's empire, but I've been thinking about all the irons she had in the fire, movies (she was planning on a long break after this fight to be the movie star), possible WWE appearances, mainstream talk shows, the planned bio-pic, boxing matches, etc. A lot of it will still happen but it takes the wind out of her sails for sure.

A Rousey-Cyborg match suddenly seems a lot less urgent too.

I wonder if she'll ever be on the cover of any non-mma magazines anymore either. Probably no more "athlete of the year" awards also. She's got more than enough money for sure, but as a commodity, she's not as hot anymore and probably will never be.

At least, hopefully, those 2 bombastic mega-irritants Dana White and Joe Rogan will stop will all the "Ronda is a monster" "She'd ragdoll (fill in blank)" factoids they spew endlessly. Joe and Dana put on happy faces after the fight, maybe they don't even realize what asses they are ::) I know, Dana's crowing he proved the skeptics wrong by matching RR with HH, but his over the top statements about Ronda's deity are still echoing as far as I'm concerned.

femfightwatcher

QuoteBe nice to people on your way up because you'll meet them on your way down.

DR

#25
Sweet and humble...and deadly too  ;)

Long May She Reign!

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EDIT:

And I just have to quote one of the comments from YT. It is by Willie HavMire, and this guy says:

"did ya'll catch how Holm tried to touch gloves with Rhonda before the fight and Rhonda refused? Yet, after Holm almost kicked her head off, Holm stopped celebrating to make sure Rhonda was OK... That's CLASS vs TRASH"

That's how I see it too.

sleepinbin

Quote from: crushed4life on 15-Nov-15, 11:28 AM
Don't know how devastating this will be to Ronda's empire, but I've been thinking about all the irons she had in the fire, movies (she was planning on a long break after this fight to be the movie star), possible WWE appearances, mainstream talk shows, the planned bio-pic, boxing matches, etc. A lot of it will still happen but it takes the wind out of her sails for sure.

Ronda will be fine. The UFC's marketing strategy however? Less fine, and if Aldo beats McGregor it's in total disarray.

They'll probably give Ronda an immediate rematch, because, you know, that's how they roll these days (and it totally undermines the people who beat the champ), but a Cyborg match would be way, way better IMO.

gbs1

Quote from: DR on 15-Nov-15, 03:40 PM
Sweet and humble...and deadly too  ;)

Long May She Reign!

https://mega.nz/#!0BBxiJab!ZtDR9dHMSlmpyDUNejvFzqq7-idgBHe8ceMaHcvdHQE

EDIT:

And I just have to quote one of the comments from YT. It is by Willie HavMire, and this guy says:

"did ya'll catch how Holm tried to touch gloves with Rhonda before the fight and Rhonda refused? Yet, after Holm almost kicked her head off, Holm stopped celebrating to make sure Rhonda was OK... That's CLASS vs TRASH"

That's how I see it too.
Quote from: DR on 15-Nov-15, 03:40 PM
Sweet and humble...and deadly too  ;)

Long May She Reign!

https://mega.nz/#!0BBxiJab!ZtDR9dHMSlmpyDUNejvFzqq7-idgBHe8ceMaHcvdHQE

EDIT:

And I just have to quote one of the comments from YT. It is by Willie HavMire, and this guy says:

"did ya'll catch how Holm tried to touch gloves with Rhonda before the fight and Rhonda refused? Yet, after Holm almost kicked her head off, Holm stopped celebrating to make sure Rhonda was OK... That's CLASS vs TRASH"

That's how I see it too.

Yeah..I saw that too! so so soo pure....!

uboat

Quote from: voayer on 15-Nov-15, 09:04 AM
I am sorry for all Ronda's fans, but she kinda get, what she deserves.
I never liked her arrogant behaviour.
"I am the greatest, i am the best paid fighter, i can beat Floyd......blah, blah, blah. Me, me, me.... "

I am kinda glad, that Holly shut her big mouth.
Even if all this swaggering is part of the show, not touching gloves with her opponent tells me, that she have a serious behaviour issue.

Just my oppinion.

100% true! Holly deserves to win, no excuses she's far better than Rhonda.

Ronald_Frump

Just re-watched this and OMG! Holly totally pwns Ronda in EVERY department. The biggest surprise was how easily Holly nullified Ronda's judo throws and armbar attempt. Props to Holly and her trainers (Greg Jackson & Mike Winkeljohn) for devising and implementing a superb strategy. It just proves that successful MMA grappling defense can be learned in a relatively short time period - even against an Olympian judoka/newaza specialist.

Here is an excellent video breakdown which explains the techniques used. Much better than any of the "Gracie breakdowns" IMO....  8)


Ronda Rousey vs Holly Holm - Fight Analysis - Coach Firas Zahabi


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