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Mistress Kara vs Veve LaneIf there is a one to beat Veve it's either Ariel or Kara. Check how Kara would do against Veve. For me both are equally talented and Kara is bigger and stronger. So my money is on Kara. check it out.
Raquel does still fight (just doesn't session) and would destroy Veve and anyone else on the scene
People think veve has got better over the last couple of years?? you think Raquel didn't? When they fought Veve was a purple belt in BJJ,Raquel was a white belt at the timeThe difference is 25 years of grappling, bodybuilding, powerlifting and boxing...And overall fight experience. Also, to answer the question of being only ranked in session world? She holds World and North American titles in various grappling and martial arts disciplines.There's a reason all of the top girls! Pro fighters or not, that session got there buts handed to them when they fought Raquel, pound for pound, different league.She went to New York twice to meet Veve and veve pulled out of the matches last minute due to unforeseen circumstances.
Quote from: Pauly1982 on 29-Nov-14, 08:00 PMPeople think veve has got better over the last couple of years?? you think Raquel didn't? When they fought Veve was a purple belt in BJJ,Raquel was a white belt at the timeThe difference is 25 years of grappling, bodybuilding, powerlifting and boxing...And overall fight experience. Also, to answer the question of being only ranked in session world? She holds World and North American titles in various grappling and martial arts disciplines.There's a reason all of the top girls! Pro fighters or not, that session got there buts handed to them when they fought Raquel, pound for pound, different league.She went to New York twice to meet Veve and veve pulled out of the matches last minute due to unforeseen circumstances. Hey there. If you are who I think you are, we did discuss this specific matter already earlier this year elsewhere on the web. Interesting how this keeps causing such discussion.When VeVe had her match with Raquel in February 2011, VeVe had only been training in wrestling/grappling for approximately 3.5 years. She had only just been promoted to jiujitsu purple belt in October 2010 (students can get to that level "relatively" quickly, though they tend to stay there for a long time) and she had no experience in pin-style wrestling at that time. As I understand it, and as you mention, Raquel had over a decade (or two? you mention 25 years) of wrestling/grappling experience. I know you like to mention this purple belt thing a lot, but years training carries more weight than a belt color which may mark how long a student attended a particular school.Also, I believe you've mention this before about Raquel coming to New York specifically for a rematch. She did not come specifically for video matches - she came on session tours. This was all within less than 6 months of the original match. [also, as I had mentioned previously elsewhere: "Referencing e-mail records, I am aware of only two discussions about setting up a rematch: one for May 2011 and one for July 2011. For the May attempt, the ladies could not work out a date (one needed May 5, the other needed May 8 ). For the July attempt, VeVe's flight back to NYC from travelling was delayed.") ]But, seriously, Raquel is retired from this scene and has moved on with her life. The two ladies were on friendly terms and have known each other outside of the scene. Many experience-level mismatches take place all across the wrestling industry, and that's perfectly okay (and often desirable!). School of hard knocks is par for the course. But people grow, learn, change. And life goes on.